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**CF-Mike** · 02-17-2006, 01:40 PM

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BMW today released new details on its much-rumored N54 Bi-Turbo Engine. The motor is expected to appear in the 2007 BMW 335i and 2007 BMW 335ci (coupe). The engine has an output of 306 horsepower and maximum torque of 400 Nm. BMW said it has already tested a 3-Series sedan with the engine, and achieved a 0-62mph time of 5.7 seconds. BMW said the engine is relatively lightweight â€” about 70kg less than its 4.0-liter V8 engine. According to the automaker, the 3.0-liter engine has little or no turbo lag, thanks to two small turbos instead of one large one. Maximum torque is achieved between 1500 and 5800 rpm. What we know so far: BMW will show its new E92 3-Series coupe at the Geneva Motor Show along with this new engine. What's no entirely clear is whether this engine will make it to North America. Recent rumors suggested this turbo engine would be exclusive to Europe, and a different naturally-aspirated powerplant would drive the 335 in North America.

hi55us · 02-17-2006, 03:49 PM

Good Job BMW but you haven't created an engine better than th LS2 V8

**Blown_SC** · 02-17-2006, 03:50 PM

Impressive output for sure....

cycocase · 02-17-2006, 05:06 PM

Really? How do you figure. I'm just saying, 306 HP out of a 3.0 twin-turbo is not exactly setting any records. Toyota made 320 HP 15 years ago with the Supra 3.0 twin-turbo. As did Mitsubishi and Nissan. All running 3.0 twin turbos. I can't seem to think why they would do that, the engine HAS to have way more potential than that. I'm not bagging on it, I'm just a little surprised and dissapointed at the output.

Cyco

Mr. dB · 02-17-2006, 05:15 PM

So they've abandoned plans to call the E96 coupe the 4-Series?

LotusGT1 · 02-17-2006, 06:56 PM

LOL@this discussion. This is no HP/Liter debate, but the BMW inlines are known for their inpeccable smooth run and wide torque band. With this twin-turbo low pressure set-up they probably made another award winning engine.

Obviously they didn't went for an all out performance engine. BMW got 360hp out of an 3.2L straight 6 in their M3 CSL. That's 111 hp/liter, from an older engine.
LOL@comparing it to twin-turbo high pressure engines in some random japanese sports cars. 306hp in a sportive yet comfortable sedan is impressive, and more than enough. Different sorts for different applications....

BMW has shown e.g. with the V10 in the M5 how to built a real performance engine.

hi55us STFU

LS1FC3 · 02-17-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LotusGT1

but the BMW inlines are known for their inpeccable smooth run and wide torque band. With this twin-turbo low pressure set-up they probably made another award winning engine.

**CF-Mike** · 02-17-2006, 06:59 PM

I'm sure if they wanted to this motor could push a lot more HP / TQ than it is right now, but that isn't their goal with the setup. I think it is a great setup for BMW enthusiasts who may want to play with it later on. But for the person who just buys one for a smooth fun ride, hats off to BMW for the motor how it sits.

Hjholter3 · 02-17-2006, 06:59 PM

What kind of powerband does this engine have? not peaky? really who gives a ****, you can get a better engine from GM cheaper and probably make more power while being smooth and running low octane fuel..

Hjholter3 · 02-17-2006, 07:00 PM

oh yeah, HP/litre is for ricers.

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cycocase I AM THE LAW IvD Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 8,510 Vehicle Profile: Year: 1967 Make: Ford Model: Fairlane	Really? How do you figure. I'm just saying, 306 HP out of a 3.0 twin-turbo is not exactly setting any records. Toyota made 320 HP 15 years ago with the Supra 3.0 twin-turbo. As did Mitsubishi and Nissan. All running 3.0 twin turbos. I can't seem to think why they would do that, the engine HAS to have way more potential than that. I'm not bagging on it, I'm just a little surprised and dissapointed at the output. Cyco __________________ Stick to the facts, keep the personal attacks out, state your opinion, and make a point. Posts just meant to flame other members will be deleted. Posts that do not make a point will be deleted.

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LotusGT1 Flawless CF Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 11,864 Vehicle Profile: Year: 2006 Make: Yugo Model: Turbo	LOL@this discussion. This is no HP/Liter debate, but the BMW inlines are known for their inpeccable smooth run and wide torque band. With this twin-turbo low pressure set-up they probably made another award winning engine. Obviously they didn't went for an all out performance engine. BMW got 360hp out of an 3.2L straight 6 in their M3 CSL. That's 111 hp/liter, from an older engine. LOL@comparing it to twin-turbo high pressure engines in some random japanese sports cars. 306hp in a sportive yet comfortable sedan is impressive, and more than enough. Different sorts for different applications.... BMW has shown e.g. with the V10 in the M5 how to built a real performance engine. hi55us STFU __________________ Some of my automotive photoshop work

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02-17-2006, 05:15 PM	#5
Mr. dB Phallic Symbol CF Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 625 Vehicle Profile: Year: 2007 Make: Volkswagen Model: GTI	So they've abandoned plans to call the E96 coupe the 4-Series?

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CF-Mike Mayor of CF CF Admin Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 25,153 Vehicle Profile: Year: 1993 Make: Mazda Model: RX-7	I'm sure if they wanted to this motor could push a lot more HP / TQ than it is right now, but that isn't their goal with the setup. I think it is a great setup for BMW enthusiasts who may want to play with it later on. But for the person who just buys one for a smooth fun ride, hats off to BMW for the motor how it sits.

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