2010 Chevy Camaro V6 LT (http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-09/04-23-09page-2010-Chevy-Camaro-V6-LT-vs-2010-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-3-8-V6.htm) vs 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 V6 (http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-09/04-23-09page-2010-Chevy-Camaro-V6-LT-vs-2010-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-3-8-V6.htm) both are a bargain.

I would go for whatever is cheaper. unless they are about the same, then I would get the 'maro.

Genesis sounds more like what the Camaro should be.

like 300lbs lighter. but the camaro can be ss/rs swaped.

Why pay more for the 3.8 Genesis when the 2.0T has much more potential.

:facepalm:

zomg this guy is retarded. Honestly they should have never made a v6 camaro. But that's just me

Camaro.

2010 Mustang GT > Genesis

370Z > Genesis

the Hyundai looks okay, though:dunno:

Why pay more for the 3.8 Genesis when the 2.0T has much more potential.
boosted SR or RB 240SX > 2.0T

zomg this guy is retarded. Honestly they should have never made a v6 camaro. But that's just me
The direct-injected, CVVT 3.6 DOHC V6 in the Camaro, on just an ECU tune, can make 89 more horsepower and 97 more ft-lbs of torque at the wheel. Changing when/how the cams phase is the same as swapping out the cams in that engine. Combine that with the precise, efficient tuning of the direct-injection system, and you're looking at a high-horsepower 3.6 DOHC that, when turbo'd, can embarass a Corvette Z06.

The direct-injected, CVVT 3.6 DOHC V6 in the Camaro, on just an ECU tune, can make 89 more horsepower and 97 more ft-lbs of torque at the wheel. Changing when/how the cams phase is the same as swapping out the cams in that engine. Combine that with the precise, efficient tuning of the direct-injection system, and you're looking at a high-horsepower 3.6 DOHC that, when turbo'd, can embarass a Corvette Z06.

That's alot of money invested polishing a turd.

Man, I would love to say alot of things here. Perhaps it's the low cost and fuel economy. I am willing to bet that insurance will be lower on the Hyundai though. Ok, so you can tune the cumaro really well, but is tuning what you're after? What about a slightly used GT Mustang or something, where you don't take such a huge resale hit and potentially difficult time selling it because no one really wants a V6 cumaro?

Why pay more for the 3.8 Genesis when the 2.0T has much more potential.Ricers... Ricers... Ricers...

Ever hear the term, there's no replacement for displacement? The bigger the engine, the more "potential" for power.

This does not take into account aftermarket support though. So if the parts for a 2.0T are more plentiful, cheaper, and somebody has worked out the tuning kinks already, then it may be cheaper and easier to make more power with the 2.0T than with the 3.8, but in terms of more actual POTENTIAL, the 3.8 has more. Period.

Cyco

That's alot of money invested polishing a turd.
Not really. The tune alone is under $300 for the software. So, for $25,000 including cost of the car, you can be producing only about 10% less than the horsepower/torque as the de-tuned top-model's engine makes. The V8 has more potential beyond any shadow of a doubt, and will make for some interesting low-6 second times in the right hands despite the car's weight, but the V6 has plenty of merit when it comes to performance per dollar invested to a point.

potentially difficult time selling it because no one really wants a V6 cumaro?
I dunno, this V6 F-body (http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/tim3800/?action=view&current=Tim_King_913.flv) will simply wipe the floor with most V8 Camaros I've seen. ;)

Not really. The tune alone is under $300 for the software. So, for $25,000 including cost of the car, you can be producing only about 10% less than the horsepower/torque as the de-tuned top-model's engine makes. The V8 has more potential beyond any shadow of a doubt, and will make for some interesting low-6 second times in the right hands despite the car's weight, but the V6 has plenty of merit when it comes to performance per dollar invested to a point.


I dunno, this V6 F-body (http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/tim3800/?action=view&current=Tim_King_913.flv) will simply wipe the floor with most V8 Camaros I've seen. ;)

Thats still the exception, not the rule, and still doesn't change the fact that the V8s have a better reale value. :thumbsdow

The direct-injected, CVVT 3.6 DOHC V6 in the Camaro, on just an ECU tune, can make 89 more horsepower and 97 more ft-lbs of torque at the wheel. Changing when/how the cams phase is the same as swapping out the cams in that engine. Combine that with the precise, efficient tuning of the direct-injection system, and you're looking at a high-horsepower 3.6 DOHC that, when turbo'd, can embarass a Corvette Z06.
I totally understand that Ravant. I have always respected your knowledge. I guess it's just me stuck in the old times when most of the camaros you saw was a V8, even though some had an inline 6. Well that and i guess ricers in their V6 camaros thinking they are the shit.

Thats still the exception, not the rule, and still doesn't change the fact that the V8s have a better reale value. :thumbsdow
Let alone the fact that the new 3.6 DOHC V6 is more capable than the V8 in the previous-gen Camaro. Ignore the fact that the new Camaro is an overweight pig that weighs as much as my freaking Eldorado. It's technology. Do I wish they'd implement the same technology in the LS3/LS9? Abso-freaking-lutely. The power gains from the direct injection, the HUGE powerband possibilities resulting from tuning of a set of phase-able cams, and the overall efficiency gained from both technologies to allow the LSx to compete and SLAUGHTER in endurance races are all wonderful pipe dreams. But until GM moves the tech up to the LSx, I'm going to side with the 3.6 DOHC. A $22k car + $4,000 in modifications to hit 450-475 RWHP is not exactly something to shake a stick at, especially considering the V8 Camaro makes 400/420 horsepower for $28-$30k.