I have a mitsubishi eclipse GS 97. I know that electric turbos are not going to add alot of power but might add some power. What I was thinking of doing was to install a ram air pipe onto my cool air intake and add the electric turbo might push the air in even faster or at lest add some power at low speeds.

Don't waste your money.

it will hurt perforamance more than help it.

Why will it hurt performance

what size engine do you have?

2.0 L

There isnt an electric motor in the world that will fit under your hood and spool that turbo up faster than some exhaust gases would. Probably not even enough to create any sort of pressure. Just turbulence. And turbulence = bad.

that electric fan will not push enough air to overcome the vacuum from the engine.

Talked to an engineer about the subject and he gave me some specs of what it would take to actually do on an F-body and just the dimensions of the power source were HUGE.

Ok so i see electric turbos are bad and a waste of money. i am only 16 but i do like cars and to work on them but i do not have a job and my car is a GS and that is the car i will have a while and i just put headers and a catback on so puting a mechanical turbo on now would throw all that away and i was also told that my car would not handle it. that is the only reason i was consitering an electric turbo.
SO WHAT ARE MY OTHER OPTIONS!

DAH SPRAY

Ok so i see electric turbos are bad and a waste of money. i am only 16 but i do like cars and to work on them but i do not have a job and my car is a GS and that is the car i will have a while and i just put headers and a catback on so puting a mechanical turbo on now would throw all that away and i was also told that my car would not handle it. that is the only reason i was consitering an electric turbo.
SO WHAT ARE MY OTHER OPTIONS!
Do what im doing. Im poor, I drive a car that gets me from A to B in moderate comfort. I hang out with people that waste tons of money on their cars, help them work on them in return for being able to drive them. You dont have to have to your own car to have fun with one.

Pick a car you want to build and use your no-money time to research modifications.

I hope in a year or so to be able to afford an Elise. Until then, its all about the Accord. :rockon:

Well i do not want to do NOS because my engine has a tap and it sounds like a valve and i do not want to blow up my engine this is my only car for now but i am looking into getting the valves adjusted then may be I can talk my dad into leting me get NOS.

Well i do not want to do NOS because my engine has a tap and it sounds like a valve and i do not want to blow up my engine this is my only car for now but i am looking into getting the valves adjusted then may be I can talk my dad into leting me get NOS.
:shakehead Where's the head slapping icon???

Pick a car you want to build and use your no-money time to research modifications.

x2 on that. Actually - use your no-money time to research cars to modify too. That's how I found my Fiero. I asked about one when I was only 14. I got responded to sharply with a "No, they blow up and are unsafe" to paraphrase loosely. I put the car out of my head. I got into tuning a 1999 Monte Carlo LS. That was retarded. I spent a lot of cash and even more time and even more blood getting that car to what I wanted it to be. Yeah - my front-wheel-drive land-barge was keeping up with a Porsche 944 around Watkins Glen International, and I'd only been driving for a couple of years (gotta make those veterans feel like shit, eh?), but it wasn't the top, the pinnacle of performance that I really expected out of a car.

A couple years ago, that car was struck by a drunk driver, with me in it. It saved my life, and I'm a firm believer of that. But I lost all the cash I wasted on that hunk of metal. I promptly bought another w-body Monte Carlo, just a bit older. 1996. This car's mostly stock, and is a daily driver. Because in my time between finishing the 1999 Monte Carlo build and buying the 1996 Monte Carlo, I heard of a Pontiac Fiero receiving the same engine that my '99 Monte got when I did the swap. Only he didn't turbo his Fiero. Anyway - I started looking deeper into these cars, found that the firey-death-trap thing I was scolded about when I was 14 was a rumor, and absolutely not true. In fact, I have purchased a 1985 Pontiac Fiero, and that little black, 4-cylinder, 2-seater is destined for greatness.

Long story short? Use the no-money time to research what kinda car to build, and then once you pick the car, research the mods, what people have done, what's possible and what's not reasonably so. I'll make a suggestion of where to start looking. 1999+ Toyota MR2 or 1988 Pontiac Fiero. ;) Trust me, they're a can of worms, but if you do your research well, these cars can be seriously great performers for you.

Well i do not want to do NOS because my engine has a tap and it sounds like a valve and i do not want to blow up my engine this is my only car for now but i am looking into getting the valves adjusted then may be I can talk my dad into leting me get NOS.
ITS NOT NOS.
NOS is a brand but it will still get you funny looks if you ever say NAWS around a bunch of knowledgeable car guys.

Its N20, spray, squeeze, juice, nitrous, the bottle, the poor mans turbo etc etc etc

:rockon:

ITS NOT NOS.
NOS is a brand but it will still get you funny looks if you ever say NAWS around a bunch of knowledgeable car guys.

Its N20, spray, squeeze, juice, nitrous, the bottle, the poor mans turbo etc etc etc

:rockon:
maybe he actually meant NOS.

Okay well im gonna through some dart on my car. And maybe a little lunati in it.

you tell me to call the spray N2O THAT IS Laughing Gas now who is wrong
From know no I will call it nitrous

you tell me to call the spray N2O THAT IS Laughing Gas now who is wrong
From know no I will call it nitrous
do you even know what N2 0 stands for?

a good mod is a port and polish. get a bag of sand and while the car is running, put some through the intake while a buddy is giving it gas. the sand whill swirl around, scuffing up the intake ports and smoothing the exhaust ports. this will really help flow....



i am nor repsonsible if you dont do it right, though....

dude, you'll have better luck with a strong leaf blower than with el, turbo.

Yeah get a gas one and hook the linkage up like you would dual carbs.

dont waste your money

you tell me to call the spray N2O THAT IS Laughing Gas now who is wrong
From know no I will call it nitrous
n20=laughing gas=nitrous

now who is wrong?

^^^ true, i wonder can you recharge the bottle at the dentisits office?

^^^ true, i wonder can you recharge the bottle at the dentisits office?
it would be even more funny to see a dentist/doctor to be using a NOS bottle instead of just a reg bottle.

honestly i only saw dentists use laughing gas on tv, every one i went to gave me a shot.

just noticed, isn,t a electric turbo an oxymoron?

just get a supracharger...

just get a supracharger...
I heard they are way more efficient then those stupid electric turbos

do they make a supercharger for an eclipse

do they make a supercharger for an eclipse
no


.

yes.
eaton m60. its posible. just noit probable.

so besides the spray and a supercharger what is another good option or is that about it for my car

so besides the spray and a supercharger what is another good option or is that about it for my car
you could do a 4g63 swap. but I would just sell it and buy something else if you are looking for "performance"

http://www.turbo-kits.com/eclipse_turbo_kits.html

THAT REMINDS ME!
i almost bought a DSM today.

you could do a 4g63 swap. but I would just sell it and buy something else if you are looking for "performance"

yup.

consider every option carefully, do research, and make an informed decision as to which route you feel is worth spending money and time on.

THAT REMINDS ME!
i almost bought a DSM today.
I am truelly sorry to hear that.

I am truelly sorry to hear that.
it was for a projectr for my shop. i dont like them, but i can make mad money off them and other ricers/tuners. made a gross profit of 500 bucks on a turbo back exhaust and tune on an STi today!

yea my best option is to buy a GST or GSX but only being 16 and no job yet this is the car i have and to do a swap the engine is in backwords so that would be to much work

Yeah, the ricer community is so large that the money is never gone.

You're best buy? Umm no..especially GS-T...FWD is the worst thing since ...Imports came to the US...late 80s 5.0 Mustang or maybe a Z28 would hand a DSM it's ass for alot less money.

so what you are saying is i should not buy another eclipse

You're best buy? Umm no..especially GS-T...FWD is the worst thing since ...Imports came to the US...late 80s 5.0 Mustang or maybe a Z28 would hand a DSM it's ass for alot less money.
DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR
if you want a 12-13 second car, a dsm in nice shape would be just as fast as an f-body or fox, and handle better. but will not be more reliable
but if you plan on going faster than low 12's with a dsm, it will cost more than a fox or f-body.
cheap, fast, handles good, reliable.
imports-pick two.
domestics, pick three.

No I'm not telling you what to buy and what not to buy. It's all personal taste. I have a DSM...I'm desperately trying to get rid of it because it's broken down more times than I want to remember...I do like them. But I would never buy a DSM that wasn't AWD. Not even for a daily driver but that's just my opinion.

ok that is fair but basicaly i have maxed out my car except for nirtous turbo or supercharger right

420a or 4G63? FWD or AWD?

He said he wanted to turbo it, so unless he's a tool. It's a FWD 420A. You can not drop in a 4G63 into it. The 420A sits on the passenger side opposed to the 4G63 which is on the driver side, expect in the EVO IV-IX. Be careful turboing, the 420A has issues dealing with boost without beefing up the internals, in other words run less then 10 psi. Any more and you put a piston through the motor.

You're best and CHEAPEST route if you want a turbo'd Eclipse is to sell your GS and buy a Turbo (GS-T/GSX) Eclipse. If you want to go cheaper go with a 1st generation all wheel drive model (1990-1994). They routinely go for $1000-$3000. Also the Ealge Talon and Plymouth Laser are the EXACT same car as the Eclipse.

These cars are particular when it comes in terms of reliability but thats usually due to owner error. A few months ago I was helping someone rebuild his head when he dropped a head stud into the oil passage. the only way to retrieve it was to drop the oil pan where I found LOTS of brass debris and oil that looked like tar. I asked him when was the last time he changed the oil he said "never." You take care of these cars and they will take care of you.

With 400 AWHP you can get into the 11's with no sweat (provided you can drive with a damn). And will cost you around $3000 in mods if you do your own work. Plus the car you are looking at no more then $5000 to build something that can hand a ferrari it's ass.

Those that state that you can build othe cars are faster (Mustang/Camaro) are right. It's really a matter of personal choice. However, well I was in GE not a single Fox body could keep out with me on the road course tracks. Then again out there, a Domestic is like buying a Ferrari with even less available aftermarket support and they are EXPENSIVE.

There was a Major on post with a force fed GT. GAWD, the thing was sweet. He broke his tranny shifting into 3rd and STILL ran a 12.

ive swapped a 4g63 into a neon.
it can be done into a eclipse. but for far more money than it would be to just buy a dsm.

I said it does not drop it. Like a B18C1 drops into EF Civic. I've seen an LS1 stuffed into a CRX, Miata, EVO. I've seen a neon converted to AWD and powered by an EJ25 (N/T). I've seen lots of things done, but they don't drop in. It requires alot of work.

like I said it is just no cost efficent to do