ey guys i have a 93 talon with a sunroof..well heres the deal..i took it out with no problem as i read the owners manuel...but the way it says to put it back in is really weird because you haver to push two arms together and slide it into two holes...well they wont go in far enough for me to slide them back in ive tried everything....what can i do??

You can pray it doesnt rain.

can you show us pics?

i'm not sure, bud. installation would be the reverse of removal, right?

yea thats what i thought but after i posted this i was messin with it and just twirling it around gettin a tool and it popped baxck in place...so it all good....but another question...well a few..(1)someone had said the car i got has a blown head gasket how do i know(2) what is that liquid stuff that u put in ur intercooloer with antifreeze to seal a hole

You'll know when it starts overheating and/or you see anti-freeze dripping out of your head. Also check compression. Hopefully you dont put anything liquid into your intercooler cuz the only thing supposed to run through there is air. The stuff that goes in your radiator is stop leak but its kind of a redneck fix and doesnt usually work.

yea thats what i meant....but see i cant find the hole where its leaking though..any easy way to find that???but like ill start it up and let it run for about 10 minutes and it will get 3/4 the way to H on the temp. gauge

yea thats what i meant....but see i cant find the hole where its leaking though..any easy way to find that???but like ill start it up and let it run for about 10 minutes and it will get 3/4 the way to H on the temp. gauge

do this, when car is cold, open radiator cap, start it, if you see lots of small bubles in the radiator than gasket is shot, or head worped, also check coolant level in the radiator, not excpantion tank(it might be full, but radiator empty).

so if i see bubbles my gasket is done?? whats head worped...so if radiator is empty then that may be a reason too??

when your head heats and cools so many times, it'll lose it shape (warp) and wont fit securely against the block. The air will leak through the gap and you will lose compression. Thats another way to check for head warpage/blown gaskets, check your cylinder compression.

when your head heats and cools so many times, it'll lose it shape (warp) and wont fit securely against the block. The air will leak through the gap and you will lose compression. Thats another way to check for head warpage/blown gaskets, check your cylinder compression.


how in gods name do in do that...trust me if yall knew what school i go to and about the town its in all would know why i dont know much...but how do i check cylinder compression

when your head heats and cools so many times, it'll lose it shape (warp) and wont fit securely against the block. The air will leak through the gap and you will lose compression. Thats another way to check for head warpage/blown gaskets, check your cylinder compression.


how in gods name do in do that...trust me if yall knew what school i go to and about the town its in all would know why i dont know much...but how do i check cylinder compression :stupid:

not too complicated. You do need a compression gauge tho. A lot of people do this different. Some people take out the fuel pump relay but I usually dont. take out all your spark plugs and remove them from plug wires. Put your compression gauge in place of your spark plugs. Turn the engine over 4 or 5 times. read your compression gauge (repeat for each cylinder, chances are it'll be #2 or 3 with low compression if it's warped). Compression should all be up around 100-125, its a pretty broad range depending on the car but most cars with blown gaskets will read 0 or something close to that. Hope it helps.

gaskets don't warp, they are flexible, cylinder heads do, i wouldn't bother with compression testing, he has to send a head to a shop to see if it's worped or not, anyway, just look for bubles, and check motor oil, it if has a trace of coolant(dicoloration)

obviously, gaskets dont warp and I didnt intend to give the impression that they do; The head does. You dont HAVE to send it anywhere, if it still has compression then it doesn't matter if its warped or not.

obviously, gaskets dont warp and I didnt intend to give the impression that they do; The head does. You dont HAVE to send it anywhere, if it still has compression then it doesn't matter if its warped or not.

yes you do, how do you know that the suface in perfectly flat(tough you can do it yourself with a thick metal ruller),if valve seats are warped, noway you want to put it back, warped, if warped they(the shop) can fix it, or you can buy a new head, if you replace the gasket and put warped head back on, it,s waste of time(and money). anyhow, compression test wont tell if it,s head or piston rings, or valves, that leak.

gaskets don't warp, they are flexible, cylinder heads do, i wouldn't bother with compression testing, he has to send a head to a shop to see if it's worped or not, anyway, just look for bubles, and check motor oil, it if has a trace of coolant(dicoloration)

can i tell that through a dipstick..but yea oil was really low wheh i bought it...what color would it be if it does have a trace of coolant

can i tell that through a dipstick..but yea oil was really low wheh i bought it...what color would it be if it does have a trace of coolant

yes you can.
usually it's lighter color than oil, greenish brown or something like that, oil's consistency would be different as well, oil would be thinner, to familiarize yourself, do this ,mix some motor oil and coolant, not much, go about 5 parts of oil 1 part of coolant, mix good,(in a paper cup, not the engine, put a lid on and shake it, just like you would with coffe to mix with sugar) just to see what it would look like, since there is no temp, in your mix as it would in the engine, it won't be exact match, but it'll give you an idea. also oil contaminated with coolant smells different.

yes you do, how do you know that the suface in perfectly flat(tough you can do it yourself with a thick metal ruller),if valve seats are warped, noway you want to put it back, warped, if warped they(the shop) can fix it, or you can buy a new head, if you replace the gasket and put warped head back on, it,s waste of time(and money). anyhow, compression test wont tell if it,s head or piston rings, or valves, that leak.

you make a good point about the valve seats, I didnt think about that. You're also right that a compression test wont tell where the compression is going away from but if you did the compression test came out okay then you would know that your gasket wouldnt be blown and your head isnt warped. So it would help narrow down the problem.

you make a good point about the valve seats, I didnt think about that. You're also right that a compression test wont tell where the compression is going away from but if you did the compression test came out okay then you would know that your gasket wouldnt be blown and your head isnt warped. So it would help narrow down the problem.
yes it would, gaskets usually blow, either between the cylinders, or between cooling passage and the cylinder, there is a chance, it'll blow somewere else, and not affect compression, and still seal, but i've never seen that, 99% they blow due to overheat, thus in the hotest spot, next to a cylinder. and almost always it leads to coolant loss, without visible leaks.

ok guys...i checked the antifreeze and that was bone dry...then i tried the bubble expeirement and come to find out i do not have a blown head gasket....but what i am lookin for now is a turbo that can fit on my 1993 talon es...i no u guys kno where to find them...help me..

yea thats what i meant....but see i cant find the hole where its leaking though..any easy way to find that???but like ill start it up and let it run for about 10 minutes and it will get 3/4 the way to H on the temp. gauge

3/4 of the way to H is BAD. turbo will only make it worse. Fix it before you consider putting on a new turbo.

yea i did fix it....and it wasnt ablown head gasket it was that the antifreeze was bone ass dry...so when i filled it up it ran great...but what do yall think about this turbo??

http://www.sportcompactonly.com/Eagle/Talon/Turbochargers/Forced-Induction/Performance/part_c-197_p-33363_vgt-11616_vy-1993.htm