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muti007
01-06-2004, 01:18 PM
there are pics in another thread so ill not repost them, heres a link if you dont want to search: http://www.autofiend.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=112 . 1st of all, no more in line 6. thats shit. second of all, its almost identical in profile to the new maxima, not a compliment. 3rd, the front and rear scream bangle. again not a compliment. wtf. i was looking forward to this car and imo they blew it in a big way. few positives are awd will be available, not that id want it, and the interior looks sharp. they didnt even up the hp of the v8. mecca i cant wait to talk 2 u online 2 c what u think. im sure well disagree on this one!


"Lexus released this information below:


Lexus introduced the new GS luxury sport sedan today at a press conference at the North American International Auto Show. The all-new, more powerful GS utilizes the latest in advanced technology to improve both performance and handling and is the first in a new wave of Lexus products to reflect a new, more passionate direction in styling.

"From a technology standpoint, the GS employs a sophisticated array of advanced safety, comfort and convenience features that will cause even the most enthusiastic driver to take notice," said Denny Clements, Lexus group vice president and general manager. "From a design standpoint, the new GS will be the first vehicle in our lineup to benefit from a new, more passionate direction in styling."

First All-Wheel Drive Model
Significantly, the new GS will feature all-wheel-drive, the first such application in any Lexus car, and offer the performance enhancements and advanced vehicle control of the Lexus Vehicle Dynamic Management (VDM) system. Monitoring a variety of sensors, the system is capable of anticipating the onset of a vehicle skid or slide and then helps correct the situation with a combination of braking and throttle control. The new VDM system is less obtrusive than conventional VSC but ultimately more effective.

Performance Optimized
Joining the potent and refined 4.3-liter V8 will be an all-new 245-horsepower V6 engine replacing the current inline six. Both the powerful V6 and V8 engines benefit from an all-new close-ratio 6-speed automatic transmission with a sequential manual-shifting mode. The combination provides faster and substantially smoother acceleration for even better performance and, surprisingly, improved fuel economy. A new Adaptive Variable Suspension allows the driver to fine-tune suspension damping with four settings ranging from normal-mode for everyday driving to a sport-mode for a tighter, more precise feel.

New Lexus Design Direction
From an architectural standpoint, the GS marks a move towards a more sculptural direction... that is artistic, dynamic, simple... yet intriguing. A two-inch longer wheelbase and short overhangs on the new GS creates a wide, powerful stance. A long hood, pulled-back cabin and slingshot windows recall classic sports car proportions and the vertical grille surrounded by four independent headlamps connects the new GS with the outgoing model, but with a futuristic look. The front also features an aggressive lower valence with integrated fog lamps. Dynamic 18-inch wheels on the V8 model help tie the muscular yet elegant look together.

The creation of a unique spatial feeling in the passenger compartment is central to the new Lexus design direction. The interior of the new GS has a precision, luxury feel with ultra-premium wood, polished metal and leather accents. Everything inside the GS is designed and styled to create a haven for peaceful comfort and relaxation, from contoured and supportive front seats with optional climate control to the standard 10-speaker audio system with simple steering wheel controls.

New Intelligent Luxury Sport Sedan
In addition to a new look and feel, the new GS also improves upon the increasingly complex nature of automotive technology. The GS offers numerous standard features, such as a keyless SmartAccess that allows the driver to lock, unlock and start the car simply by touching the door handle (with a key fob in pocket) and then simply pressing a push-button to start. An advanced Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPM) can detect and notify the driver, via an indicator warning light, of a significant loss in pressure in one or more tires, a condition that could potentially lead to premature tire wear and loss of control. The GS will also feature the Adaptive Front lighting System (AFS), which helps illuminate a turn or curve as the driver steers into it.

A rear back-up camera is also added for 2006, providing an extra margin of confidence when reversing the vehicle. Available in conjunction with the optional navigation system, it automatically projects an image of what the camera lens can detect behind the vehicle onto the navigation screen when the vehicle is in the reverse gear.

"With the new GS we took all that was good in terms of technology and found ways to make it more intuitive, more intelligent and more relevant to the needs of its driver," said Clements.

Advanced Safety Features
The GS will also offer an optional Pre-Collision System (PCS) that can help reduce collision injury and damage. The system uses a millimeter-wave radar sensor to detect obstacles in front of the car and a pre-collision system computer with vehicle speed, steering angle and yaw rate inputs that help to determine in advance whether a collision is unavoidable. The system then preemptively retracts front seat belts and prepares Brake Assist for increased braking force to help reduce collision speed.

In addition, the new GS gains new knee airbags for the driver and front passenger as well as front and rear side curtain airbags as standard equipment. The Supplemental Restraint System in the new GS also includes variable-force front airbags for both driver and front passenger. Sensors determine the severity of the accident and in turn the force with which to deploy the front airbags, helping to provide the appropriate level of occupant restraint.

"Nearly every feature on the GS makes this sports sedan more manageable and more engaging to drive," said Clements.

Preliminary Specifications - GS430
Wheelbase: 112.2 in.
Length: 189.8 in.
Width: 71.7 in.
Height: 56.1 in.
Engines: 3.0 liter V6 - 245 hp; 228 lb.-ft. of torque
4.3 liter V8 - 300 hp; 325 lb.-ft. of torque
Transmission: 6-speed sequential automatic"

RacingManiac
01-06-2004, 01:33 PM
Maxima is only grotesque IMO with its Grille, the rest of the car is fine, I love how the rear wind screen is recessed from the C-pillars. The GS IMO is quite different, and it is not bad at all, and certainly not Bangle-esque.....

greenspade
01-06-2004, 01:44 PM
It will take a while to get use to the exterior as it is a big change for their GS. I think I will grow to like it. I love the interior but am disapointed that they have gone from an i6 to a v6.

Cheater
01-06-2004, 02:04 PM
LOL@Lexus knowing not even to try and attempt to match the 5-series in any way. LOL, nothing about this car screams Bangle...

dinger
01-06-2004, 02:22 PM
The front end looks really odd, but the rest of the car is gorgeous IMO. Just look at that rear 3/4 shot...

http://www.autofiend.com/images/articles/012004/newgs0.jpg

greenspade
01-06-2004, 02:27 PM
The gauges and the push start I really do like:
http://t.wieck.com/PV/2003/12/31/TYT2003123142598_PV.jpg
and
http://t.wieck.com/PV/2003/12/31/TYT2003123142551_PV.jpg

Gallery (30 pics) http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_photos.html?index=fulltext&kw=06gs

LotusGT1
01-06-2004, 02:48 PM
It beats me why in the wolrd you would consider a hatchback in that class...

It has a Nissan Primera/Mazda 626 look from the back...

0-60
01-06-2004, 03:44 PM
It doesn't look like a Lexus. It looks like an Avalon.

muti007
01-06-2004, 05:05 PM
cheater, the outer headlights, the odd shaped tail lights, the rump added on look of the trunk all scream bangle.

lotus, where did you read its a hatchback?

Dylan
01-06-2004, 05:37 PM
It just looks like a hatchback...I think I may like it, but I'll have to see it in person. Those guages do like cool though.

LotusGT1
01-07-2004, 03:55 AM
Gauges look cheap, and way too busy for fast reading IMO...

and Muti, it looks like a hatchback instead of a sedan, I don't know if it actually IS a hatchback...

WagenMeister
01-07-2004, 04:12 AM
It just looks like a hatchback...I think I may like it, but I'll have to see it in person. Those guages do like cool though.
I dunno, other that the metal faceplate it looks kinda cheap (lotus beats me to it:p)... If it's a toyota i can forgive it but this is an upscale lexus for crying out loud :o. The new AM gauge, now those are simply cool :cool:, even the IS sports a better gauges than this car.

Tom J.
01-07-2004, 06:41 AM
For the money spend on the car, I can't believe you don't get full instrumentation. Yeah, you get the speedo and tach, fuel, and engine temperature. The water and battery is what? Dummy lights? Dummy lights belong on the econoboxes.

muti007
01-07-2004, 01:22 PM
i agree it looks like it could be a hatch but i doubt very much it is. hatchbacks dont sell in america at all, theyre the death of sales here esp in luxury models. saab doesnt even make them anymore though they were known for them. i can almost guarantee its a 4 door sedan, no hatch.

Cheater
01-09-2004, 07:03 PM
LOL, the cues don't even vaguely resemble bangle. lol@the gauges, shit looks like bargain bin.

The "mecca" project
01-17-2004, 09:03 AM
That car sure does have a bangle/Volvo look to it with the broad shoulders. You're all about PCP if you don't agree...

I honestly was sorley dissapointed and I still am some what after seeing the HPX. Which I thought was a nice looking vehicle. Anyway it is more original than any Lexus I've ever seen in terms of styling (bar maybe the IS) so if this is Lexus' future design. I can dig it... The GS looks better than the 5 series IMO and I've only seen it in one color so far.

I do see the Maxima lines in it but, the Maxima is worlds uglier. So Toyota can slide out the back with that.

At least it does not have Altezzas... That was starting to piss me off.

I'm a fan of dark insides, so I really like the ones in this photo. Though Lexus seems to pull of the best work in the light colored ones. I likes this inside. It has a look to it that all Lexus minus the IS had...

I doubt the gagues are cheap, being that it is Lexus we are talking about. They look easier to read than the current GS. I bet the car's cabin has a nice look to it at night.

All in all this Lexus has character.

Cheater
01-17-2004, 11:03 AM
LOL, shit sucks; you know it, I know it.

The "mecca" project
01-17-2004, 11:17 AM
shit looks better than the 5

Cheater
01-17-2004, 11:19 AM
LOL, shit looks stank like overweight nissan stankma and you know it stanks elsewhere.

DriverGT
01-17-2004, 11:57 AM
Reminds me of a Prius.

HeavyRightFOOT
01-18-2004, 12:53 PM
Not surprising, Lexus keeps on comming up with cars that look like bland shit. Only good looking car they came out with was the LS400.

5 series owns the GS in looks, easily. The new 5 series looks hott too. I've seen a couple on the highway.

Victor
01-18-2004, 01:17 PM
It was some Bangle-like features IMO, mostly the tail lights. And it has the same tall shoulders I see in the new 5-Series. The front end is terrible and I don't quite dislike the fact that it's not a classic sedan. But neither is a hatchback, LotusGT1. It's a notchback.

And the french have been doing upmarket notchbacks since the 70's. Think of Renault Laguna and Citroƫn XM. But Opel is the one doing an upmarket hatchback, the Signum.

LotusGT1
01-19-2004, 02:46 AM
Signum is the first in a long time, but look how succesfull the XM and the Safrane were...

Victor
01-19-2004, 08:09 PM
Signum is the first in a long time, but look how succesfull the XM and the Safrane were...

Good point. They were all so popular that I even forgot about the Safrane. There's also the Vel Satis, also from Renault, and even weirder.
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/motoring/roadtests/images/rtvelsatisrhd.jpg

charliey07
02-04-2004, 07:05 AM
I think it looks amazing as far as lux. sedans go. I love how the front reminds me of the old sc300s.

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