Well I was looking around after watching the V8 Supercar race and was thinking why I hadn't heard of a turing car type of racing using all of our fav Jap Screamers, GTR, Supra, RX7, NSX, etc..
Then I found this site: www.jgtc.com
Click on the British Jack to have it in English, that racing seems like it would be the best racing on earth.

I mean look at the cars:

http://www.jgtc.net/race/gallery/gall2001/015gallery_ph/015_007b.jpg

http://www.jgtc.net/race/gallery/gall2001/015gallery_ph/015_022c.jpg

http://www.jgtc.net/race/gallery/gall2001/015gallery_ph/015_064b.jpg

http://www.jgtc.net/race/gallery/gall2001/015gallery_ph/015_038a.jpg

They need to broadcast it worldwide like F1 Racing, I bet many would watch. I wanna see it!!!!! :D

And if they made it have races all over the world I would be in paradise.

i think is only in japan...and they have one race in malaysia i think...go skyline!

btw i think u mean www.jgtc.net

All I know is there are 2 classes, GT300(or is it 350?) and GT500. The number indicate the horsepower figure in that class. For example, McLaren F1 GTR would be in GT500, with the power limited to 500 horsepower through restrictor. And a 360 Modena would be in the lesser class. The rules for the car and chassis is identical to that of the FIA GT Championship before 1998. Which has GT1 class(GT500) and GT2 class(GT300(or 350)).

is GT300...

k...thanks...

its a great racing series, and of course the skyline dominates

i tihnk the supra is currently dominating

Originally posted by skylinelover
its a great racing series, and of course the skyline dominates

there's a class for skylines alone, yes its only in japan its called "japanese grand touring car (championship)" or gran turismo.

supra and skyline have been on top for a long time if i remember right, nsx is decent the s15 silvia by c-west is in there im pretty sure in gt300, uh there might be mr2's, rx7s are like middle pack usually.

this is all from memory of the cars i havent looked it up in forever, and i dont get to see the races since im in the us.

btw this is where you have cars like castrol supra denso sard supra pennzoil skyline raybrig nsx etc...

GT300 is dominated by RX7s, GT3(R?), and S15s...
GT500 is the world of NSX, Supra and Skyline...
if they make it an international series...and the manufacturer put their money and technology into it...it could be so competitive

Ya I knew about it a little while ago, but think of the potential!!!
A F1 type setup with cars from all over competing in races from all over. Include tracks like Nurburgring, Laguna Seca, Long Beach, Monza, etc... Add Cosworth Escorts, Camaros, Mustangs, in GT300 and Vettes, Lotus's, and Saleens in GT500. And Voila the best racing class ever.

and also put in cars like evo, 3000gt, opel speedster, omega, m3......

3kgt/GTO is just too freakin heavy, thats a lot of weight reduction, but it would be crazy if they did it right.

jgtc reminds me of IROC mixed with SCCA

actually i do remember something about the r32 dominating so much that they made a new class for it . not sure

they probably had to do alot of weight reduction on the GTR too
someone told me when the R32 GTR first came out it blew everyone's doors off and not even the camera could catch up to it

Originally posted by LanEvo
they probably had to do alot of weight reduction on the GTR too
someone told me when the R32 GTR first came out it blew everyone's doors off and not even the camera could catch up to it

yes all true except for that camera comment. r32 put the bad hurtin on everything, the nsx was the only thing that could keep up at all really and that still got punished if i remember correctly because thats when it had the crappy 3.0 liter version with less power (yeah i know they are modded anyway). when the gen iv supra came out vs the r33 it made for great racing.

i watched the race this year with my sister(we got the paddock access)... goddamnit they were loud!!!! i love the Yellow Corn McLaren although they were a bit sluggish but they look cool (except the tacky yellow paintwork). i like them coz they were a bit like NASCAR, everybodys car is the same(in terms of power and weight).

for the last 2 year, the JGTC malaysian round was a special round (means if the team won here they wont earn any points that contibutes to their championship race). but starting 2002, it will be part of the JGTC official round, means private teams will be allowed to race here and the points will count. in japan in every race they only manage to get 30-40k spectator every round (and that was after 5 or 7 year of racing) but in malaysia, they manage to pull a consistant 50k crowd every year and this year is only in 2nd time the JGTC circus visit the country. so maybe they think malaysia is the perfect ground to launch their next masterplan, to turn the JGTC to an all-Asia event.

id love for them to make it world wide

yea...world-wide...not all asia

Originally posted by LYTLdiablo


yes all true except for that camera comment. r32 put the bad hurtin on everything, the nsx was the only thing that could keep up at all really and that still got punished if i remember correctly because thats when it had the crappy 3.0 liter version with less power (yeah i know they are modded anyway). when the gen iv supra came out vs the r33 it made for great racing.


how skyline revolutionize the world touring car racing.....

the JGTC was formed in 1994 specifically for the skyline for it was deemed too competitive in the JTC(japan touring car) championship where it got the unbeaten 29 race winning streak in it's four years of competiton. from 1991-1997 the skyline was the undefeated (and undisputed) champion in N1 endurance racing in Japan, winning an amazing 50 times!!!

in 1991 nurburgring 24 hour race (it's 1st partipation) a skyline gt-r won the group N class. in Spa Francrochamps 24 hour race (in the same year!) the GTR won overall bearing the group a, and group N1 cars.

so powerfull the skyline is, that it was out rightly banned from the Australian GT Championship!!!

and dont forget LYTL, the supra in JGTC got a 2L engine.... not 3L. but not until the year 2000, that the supra became competitive.

ah see thats why i need it on this side of the globe i dont know enough about it, i knew the skyline hurt everyone but i didnt now it was that crazy, i knew they had a new class for it didnt know it was THAT extravagant.

the supra uses teh 3s-gte in jgtc? (mr2 turbo?) im assuming that would be the 2 liter they use...

Yea, that is basically how the Skyline earned its respect..

Originally posted by LYTLdiablo
ah see thats why i need it on this side of the globe i dont know enough about it, i knew the skyline hurt everyone but i didnt now it was that crazy, i knew they had a new class for it didnt know it was THAT extravagant.

the supra uses teh 3s-gte in jgtc? (mr2 turbo?) im assuming that would be the 2 liter they use...

i think i told mecca a couple of weeks ago....

the main errr...... design mistakes.... no... i dunno how do i say this specifically..... oh well.... putting the 3L engine in the supra was a "forgivable" mistake done by toyota. the designers and engineers themselves agrees that the 3L engine was not the most suitable engine for supra. it was too heavy. thats why you see all supras in JGTC are either running the 3S-GTE or the specially built (only for factory team) 2L engine. in fact the seriously tuned supra for racing in Japan mostly packs a 2L engine. while these facts are not widely known in the west, it was exploited by a number of tuner magazine in asia that the supra seems to handle a lot better when fitted with a 2L engine(usually MR2 engines). go ahead check out the magazine(if you can read cantonese and happens to came around these magazine) and read the truth about the supra (i think it was exploited in OptionFan magazine on their july 99 issue(i'm not sure which month exactly)

Damn that 29 race win streak has to be a record or somethin.
Why'd the Supra have a 2.0l? Was the Skyline a non GTR?

oh know the skyline im sure was a gtr thats teh fast version. the reason they put the 2 liter in is probably the same reason the is200 hands the is300 its ass in the turns, 2jz is a heavy bitch haha...just a powerful heavy bitch...

One word...

Iron.

Interesting, what engine replaced the Six anyway?

Originally posted by King_Tut
Damn that 29 race win streak has to be a record or somethin.
Why'd the Supra have a 2.0l? Was the Skyline a non GTR?
the skyline they used to tune in jgtc is a GTR, even though after everything it becomes a FR...

Is that the same 2L engine as the Corolla WRC car was based on? minus the heavier restriction on rally car.....

Originally posted by King_Tut
Interesting, what engine replaced the Six anyway?

near positive it was a 3s-gte (mr2 turbo)

btw 3sgte is same engine in the track attack hks altezza

Originally posted by LYTLdiablo
oh know the skyline im sure was a gtr thats teh fast version. the reason they put the 2 liter in is probably the same reason the is200 hands the is300 its ass in the turns, 2jz is a heavy bitch haha...just a powerful heavy bitch...

agreed the 2JZ good in straight line, but handles like ass in turns (track)...

the corolla WRC got a four-pot engine, so it's unlikely it is used in JGTC, where the cars must maintain the original number of cylc as the car it was based on.

But isn't there one of those TRD developed Supra in JGTC? Like the one that runs in Nurburgring 24 Hours race.....that car uses the same engine from the Corolla WRC.....

Originally posted by RacingManiac
But isn't there one of those TRD developed Supra in JGTC? Like the one that runs in Nurburgring 24 Hours race.....that car uses the same engine from the Corolla WRC.....
the Castrol supra?

Well there is more than one team that runs the MKIV. Think maybe they run with diffrent 2.0 liters?

JGTC Supras that use 3S-GTE
ESSO TOYOTA TEAM Le Mans
Esso Ultraflo SUPRA
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/006car.jpg

TSUCHIYA ENGINEERING
FK/Massimo ADVAN SUPRA
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/025car.jpg

TOYOTA TEAM CERUMO WITH UKYO
TEAM UKYO SUPRA
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/033car.jpg

TOYOTA TEAM TOM'S
Castrol TOM'S SUPRA
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/036car.jpg

TOYOTA TEAM TOM'S
Matsukiyo ZENT TOM'S SUPRA
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/037car.jpg

TOYOTA TEAM CERUMO
au CERUMO SUPRA
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/038car.jpg

TOYOTA TEAM SARD
DENSO SARD SUPRA GT
http://www.jgtc.net/race/2001/01team/01team_ph/039car.jpg

first name is the team name
second name is the machine name
then the pic
and in other words...all supras in JGTC uses 3S-GTE

clever.... 3S-GTE (MR2 2S-GTE) why dont i see 2JZ-GTE?

and RM, i dont know much about racing (you're the racing 'maniac' ), but i do know some of the rule of JGTC, the car must retain the original number of cycl of the car it was based on.

btw, MF, the mclaren got first place in last round and did pretty good in the season

only one win in the entire year after more than 2 year competing in JGTC?
you're talking to one of the greatest road car(cum racing car) ever built that won the Lemans in their 1st participation!!! i called that misarable, but i'm not complaining coz i know JGTC is very diff than Lemans....

McLaren won the Championship in JGTC(or something before the current governing body) in 1996, but the heavy restriction placed on the likes of McLaren made them less than competitive against the others.....

I'm just not sure about that Supra race car with the 4 pot Turbo, since the only race I know it runs is the NRing 24 hours, and I was thinking maybe that'll be similar rule with the JGTC reg. We don't get much about JGTC here and I only know this thing exists after I start using car forum....:D

are you sure about the McLaren? i only noticed it on 1999 not before that....(i dont know about the series before 1997, poor coverage over here...)

Got it on the book Driving Ambition.......

does supras, skylines, and nsx's get money from their manufacturer? coz cars like the mclaren, diablo, viper, 360 and 900mt i m sure doesn't get the tech ppl and money from their original manufacturer that's a big disadvantage