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imported_300ZX
11-13-2001, 09:20 AM
With the VTEC engine producing 190hp.
how fast would it do 0-60?
and how much for a 92-93.

ichthus
11-13-2001, 04:20 PM
Depending greatly on miles, you can find a '92-'96 model for anywhere between $4500 and $10k. For a truly decent model I'd look to spend about $7500 after some haggling.

Ruchmate
11-13-2001, 04:30 PM
0-60 is about 6.2

0-60
11-13-2001, 04:32 PM
An absolutly great car. Comfortably, pretty quick still, and attractive.

electronlude
11-16-2001, 10:05 PM
Can it really hit 60 in 6.2? I was figuring closer to 6.6 because I know that the VTEC 4th gen is just a tick quicker than the 5th gen.

TS1
11-16-2001, 11:58 PM
wait......how fast is the 4th gen fish in comparison to the 5th gen lude?

LYTLdiablo
11-17-2001, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Ruchmate
0-60 is about 6.2

no

LYTLdiablo
11-17-2001, 12:29 AM
eh lemme elaborate a little bit. thats about the best time anye has pulled out of an integra type r that has it by a major weight advantage 1-200lbs (speaking honda, thats like a car) and 5hp and better gearing transmission and has lsd. tahts almost as fast as a mustang gt, it is not gonna run any 6.2 stock, more like high 6's 6.7-6.9. whats the weight? 28-2900?? its about as fast as a gsr integra like 15.4-15.6 1/4 mile

0-60
11-17-2001, 01:13 AM
Yeah, that's about right. High 6s, mid 15s. Still not too bad.

hondamatic
11-17-2001, 10:32 AM
I still lust after the looks of the 3rd gens myself, but the 4th gen VTECs are damn attractive cars. They're supposed to handle pretty good too...

electronlude
11-17-2001, 11:22 AM
I love 3rd gens too. My second favorite after the 5th. There are some fast ass 3rd gen H22 hybrids out there. Ive been thinking of doing that one day too.

The 4th gen VTEC is slightly faster than a 5th gen Lude because of its weight advantage but the 5th gen (esp. the SH) are much better handlers.

Silverfish
11-17-2001, 12:19 PM
My favorites were whatever they were before the uglified latest ones... they reminded of Eagle Visions from the front; very sleek.

Ruchmate
11-17-2001, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by LYTLdiablo
eh lemme elaborate a little bit. thats about the best time anye has pulled out of an integra type r that has it by a major weight advantage 1-200lbs (speaking honda, thats like a car) and 5hp and better gearing transmission and has lsd. tahts almost as fast as a mustang gt, it is not gonna run any 6.2 stock, more like high 6's 6.7-6.9. whats the weight? 28-2900?? its about as fast as a gsr integra like 15.4-15.6 1/4 mile

Dude what are you talking about? My prelude type-sh runs a 6.9 0-60, the base model runs around a 6.7 and the 4th gens run much lower. I'm sure I saw 6.2 seconds to 60 for it.

Anyways the 4th gen Prelude is one ugly ass car so it makes no diff to me.

imported_300ZX
11-17-2001, 02:45 PM
Yep, I've got some vids lined up... just hope I have to get them up and post some links.

LYTLdiablo
11-18-2001, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Ruchmate


Dude what are you talking about? My prelude type-sh runs a 6.9 0-60, the base model runs around a 6.7 and the 4th gens run much lower. I'm sure I saw 6.2 seconds to 60 for it.

Anyways the 4th gen Prelude is one ugly ass car so it makes no diff to me.

sh does not weigh that much more that it would be faster by .2, also the 4th gens are not that much faster (.5 seconds+) and im not telling you from a message board or from a magazine, im telling you because i know people with the cars and i used to associate with the little honda enthusiast group of people around and all we talked about were tegs civics and ludes and the occational s2k or nsx. a PERFECTLY driven type r runs 6.2 and it weighs a lot less with better power and transmission. a good/decent driven itr runs 6.5, ludes DO run high 6's

electronlude
11-18-2001, 12:47 AM
It goes like this... 4th gen VTEC ~6.6, Base 5th gen 6.7, SH 5th gen 6.9. The difference between the SH and base is not only the weight but also the fact that ATTS sapps power that is put down to the ground. So at the wheels the SH would have less hp than the base.

hondamatic
11-18-2001, 12:55 AM
Just outta curiousity, does the base 5th gen 'Lude have an open front diff, or does it still have some sort of LSD?

LYTLdiablo
11-18-2001, 01:03 AM
it has lsd, thats how they use the whole atts (active torque transfer system) its a halfway job of what subbie does, it sences which wheel is slipping and puts more power to the wheel thats gripping.

electronlude
11-18-2001, 01:07 AM
I think that he was talking about the base Lude in that case it has an oppen diff.

hondamatic
11-18-2001, 10:30 AM
You've got it Electronlude... thanks for the info...

I'm surprised that, given its' torque transfer differential, the SH isn't quicker off the line. I know that the LSD in SE-Rs is supposed to do them a whole lot of good off the line (my 60' times still suck though :))..

LYTLdiablo
11-18-2001, 10:32 AM
well because of the way its set up it sucks power everytime one wheel starts spinning so yes youre getting more grip but less power pushing your car. se-r's have a straight lsd so it will just spin both tires and not think about it.

Ruchmate
11-18-2001, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by LYTLdiablo
it has lsd, thats how they use the whole atts (active torque transfer system) its a halfway job of what subbie does, it sences which wheel is slipping and puts more power to the wheel thats gripping.

I don't think the base has an LSD, the SH has ATTS which isn't a wheel sliping device. Under hard conering loads it simply puts more power to the outside wheel to prevent understeer.

ichthus
11-18-2001, 09:44 PM
My friend is looking at a silver '93 Si right now. Body is in great shape and they've put on the funky tail-lights/turn signals, along with great 17" wheels and tires (original wheels and snow tires included), new exhaust, custom interior, 90k miles, 5-sp, all maintenance records (all work done at dealership): asking price $8500. Only problem is that the seller has already bought a new car and doesn't want it taking up space in the driveway during the winter...and my friend can't buy anything until january. Off course, we're going to test drive it and try to talk the guy into waiting on the sale (or parking at my friends house for now :) )...but who knows. I only talked to the seller's wife, so wasn't able to find out what, if anything, has been done to the suspension or engine. The exhaust looked real nice, and the double tips were tastefully small. The tail-lights make it look a little ricey, IMO, but still nice.

Can anyone give me a rundown of the different 4th gen models and engine specs? I dont' think all models had VTEC at the time, did they?

electronlude
11-18-2001, 10:49 PM
There were three models:
S- 135 hp 142 lb ft torque out of a 2.2L non-vtec block. I believe its an F22 block.
Si- 160 hp 156 lb ft torque out of a 2.3L non-vtec block. H23
VTEC- 190hp 158 lb ft torque from a 2.2L vtec H22a1 same block as a 5th gen.

LYTLdiablo
11-18-2001, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Ruchmate


I don't think the base has an LSD, the SH has ATTS which isn't a wheel sliping device. Under hard conering loads it simply puts more power to the outside wheel to prevent understeer.

its a wheel slipping device...thats exactly why it pushes more power to the outside wheel...its the one slipping least...

LYTLdiablo
11-18-2001, 11:56 PM
if im not mistaken the 2.3 liter 4 is the biggest 4 honda has ever made...

ichthus
11-19-2001, 10:23 PM
thanks. Would appear this one is an Si...no VTEC. It has had a cold air intake and Air filter added though, so performance is pretty nice. If the load goes through it looks like he may be getting it sooner than we expected...perhaps by the end of the week. Going to have a mechanic take a look at it first though.

King_Tut
11-20-2001, 01:19 AM
I thought they made a 2.5 liter four for the Vigor, but that could have been a Five cylinder.

ichthus
11-20-2001, 11:13 AM
yeah, the Vigor had an inline 5. Great looking car...too bad they dropped it.

Prelude92
04-21-2007, 08:56 PM
Well, i just bought a 92 Prelude SI 4WS about 3 months ago for $2300. The reason being so cheap i would say is because the clutch is starting to go bad, and 2nd and 3rd gear syncro's are bad. I have already replaced the Starter, and front windshield. I knew all of these things were bad before i bought the car, but i liked it so much i decided to go threw with it.. i hope it was not a mistake. Is a 4th gen Honda Prelude worth keeping? Is it worth fixing up all the problems? I mean i absolutely love the car, and the handling on it is awsome compared to some other cars i have driven, but for my very first car, and my age, im having trouble keeping up with the costs. Is it worth struggling to fix these problems, and later on hook it up with some aftermarket parts? Or should i try to sell it, get the 2300 back for it, and buy a $500 junker and save for my dream car - 93-98 Twin Turbo Toyota Supra?

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