you know......some time next year (hopefully)..........i should get some kind of a sports car.....


of course #1 is supra.

Then maybe prelude......and others.......i haven't really decided......

I'm just wondering what you would all think if i got one....

MY GUESS:

A waste of an awesome car because its being given to an idiot.


MY POINT:

I'll have one. And you won't. So **** YOU ALL!!


MUAAHAHHAHA.

ok...i'm done.

Good luck affording it.. I couldn't.

I wouldn't much care. Just another spoilt kid with no brains and a car.

I hope you have more driving brains than you do logical skills.
I wouldn't get in a car with you, put it that way.

Yea Good Luck! Actually you would say "**** us all" if you got one, well I'll jinx(sp) you and so now, ha, you won't be able to get one. :D

Originally posted by Lizard King
I wouldn't much care. Just another spoilt kid with no brains and a car.

I hope you have more driving brains than you do logical skills.
I wouldn't get in a car with you, put it that way.

Give the kid a break.

If you get a Supra, get a veilside body kit:) CLSII will do just fine, with the combat hood.

Originally posted by The "mecca" project
Good luck affording it.. I couldn't.

Just out of curiosity, what was so expensive about the Supra? Are we talking things like tires and gas or just general maintenance?

I wish you luck. From hearing you type, I can tell that getting a Supra would bring you immense happiness and I am for it.

Good luck i your coquests!!

excuse me, but i dont think prelude and sports car should be used in the same sentence.......



Originally posted by TS1


of course #1 is supra.

Then maybe prelude......and others.......i haven't really decided......

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haha......i don't even know why i made this thread...

maybe i should delete it.



btw.....why do u say that prelude shouldn't be used in the same sentence w/ sports car?.......azmcoupe?

Because a prelude is not a sports car! it's a sports coupe, big difference. congrats on the car, when you get it come find me and you tell me how nice my tail lights are.

Originally posted by SymTrips
Because a prelude is not a sports car! it's a sports coupe, big difference. congrats on the car, when you get it come find me and you tell me how nice my tail lights are.

Dude, you're running 13s, a Supra can pull a 13 flat and high 12s with $500 in mods, why are you talking?

No Dinan, The Z28 can run the 1/4 mile in 12.6...

Originally posted by The "mecca" project
No Dinan, The Z28 can run the 1/4 mile in 12.6...


:eek: :D :rolleyes:

damn f-bodys are getting quick.

They get faster each time the quarter mile is brought up:) Pretty soon they'll be running 12 flat with 50 dollars in mods a permium gas:)

Originally posted by The "mecca" project
No Dinan, The Z28 can run the 1/4 mile in 12.6...

I guess I should add that, Shaman said this…

Maybe he meant down hill?

http://www.beaterz.com/one_liners/0601/images/miatawing_front.jpg

http://www.beaterz.com/one_liners/0601/images/miatawing_back.jpg

I don't know, TS1, this is more... you :)

That car just screams flam'n gayness:) Its looks like it has Miata marker lights and some demented lude head lights and a late fifties rear end. Some poeple really just have no taste. The only thing decent on it is the rims.

It's a miata, with mad fins...


i'd drive that...


off a cliff and into a volcano... Hahhahah :p

Well the Supra ain't no sports car either if you want to get really picky. Its a GT, and crappy one at that:)

Originally posted by M3man
It's a miata, with mad fins...


i'd drive that...


off a cliff and into a volcano... Hahhahah :p

But then you would die and the World would be a better place...

(And we can't have that... :D)

LOL@ Mecca

AZM coupe, I'd watch what ya say about Ludes, I love them and about five members have one. Or your gonna get a royal ass flamin. Damn Newbies :D

O know not another F-body lover in SymTrips :)

When ya guys say 1/4 mile times for the Supra is it the TT?
probably a stupid question :)

Originally posted by SymTrips
Because a prelude is not a sports car! it's a sports coupe, big difference. congrats on the car, when you get it come find me and you tell me how nice my tail lights are.

K.....then what is your definition of a sports car?

A big barge with an enormous 5.7Liter V-8 and the ugliest steering wheel on earth?

Oh yea......and when i do get my supra (or prelude) i might see your hideous tail lights for a moment.....but then my turbo will kick in.........and you'll get a blow off valve up your ass along with the sight of 2 bright red eyes staring back at your ugly camaro's front end.

:p :p :p :p :p

Originally posted by Silverfish
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I don't know, TS1, this is more... you :)

eh he.....i'll get that for you as a birthday present.

Originally posted by TS1


K.....then what is your definition of a sports car?

A big barge with an enormous 5.7Liter V-8 and the ugliest steering wheel on earth?

Oh yea......and when i do get my supra (or prelude) i might see your hideous tail lights for a moment.....but then my turbo will kick in.........and you'll get a blow off valve up your ass along with the sight of 2 bright red eyes staring back at your ugly camaro's front end.

:p :p :p :p :p

A sports car be definition has no top, no doors, but the modern sports is a light weight 2 door car with decent to good power, the MR2 is a s ports car, the miata is a sports car, the Prelude is not, the M3 is not, but they're often referred to as sports cars.

is that right?

so an MB CLK GTR road version is not literally a sports car?

No, genuinely the Prelude is not a sports car, neither is a Supra. Current sports cars IMO are the Miata, MR2 Spyder, Honda S2000 et cetera.... But by modern definitions the Prelude and Supra can be considered sports cars.

Originally posted by TS1
is that right?

so an MB CLK GTR road version is not literally a sports car?

Not by the classic definition, just because the word sport is in there doesn't mean it's fast.

How very true.

Originally posted by persid
How very true.

Such powerful words...

I had to quote them... Everyone shut up and read what Persid said like 12 times.

I hope you get your Supra, TS1. Then, you will be considered just another rice kid I can smoke on the streets. :D

Originally posted by M Prophet


Give the kid a break.

The whole topic was just a 'neh neh I'm spoilt' topic anyway. He doesn't deserve a break.

Originally posted by SpeedLS1
I hope you get your Supra, TS1. Then, you will be considered just another rice kid I can smoke on the streets. :D

I dunno about that........

I think i could beat you....

:D

As for the nehehe i'm spoiled topic thing.......maybe u interpreted it that way.......but i was just trying to decide what you all would think if i actually owned such a great car (well....i think its a great car.....).

Originally posted by TS1


K.....then what is your definition of a sports car?

A big barge with an enormous 5.7Liter V-8 and the ugliest steering wheel on earth?

Oh yea......and when i do get my supra (or prelude) i might see your hideous tail lights for a moment.....but then my turbo will kick in.........and you'll get a blow off valve up your ass along with the sight of 2 bright red eyes staring back at your ugly camaro's front end.

:p :p :p :p :p

A sports car is a car with only 2 seats and atleast 200hp, camaro's are sport coupes, as with firebirds, preludes etc... a vette, viper, prowler, s2k is a sports car. as for you smoking me when your turbo spools. do you think I'm not going to mod my car by the time you get yours.. NEWSFLASH my car is stock! and I've yet to see a supra run low 13's stock. mid 13's yeah, but not low 13's. You go get your little $1500 upgrade and I'll go spend 300$ for Intake & MAF, 600$ for SLP tuned length headers, $250 for a cam, and the last 350 for a hypertech programmer and be running low 12's high 11's and then you can as I stated before tell me how nice my tail lights are! Since I drive a barge and all, though isn't it funny that a TT supra weighs more than my car? and is the same size if not a little bigger? hrmm isn't that odd... the TT might turn a little better than my car, but wait till that straight away.. this is all assuming you can actually drive the car right..

At least 200hp my ass.... I suppose an MGB isn't a sports car, neither is the miata :rolleyes:

But then you would die and the World would be a better place...

(And we can't have that... )hater! :(

cars have changed...we need a new definitions

Originally posted by TS1
haha......i don't even know why i made this thread...

maybe i should delete it.



btw.....why do u say that prelude shouldn't be used in the same sentence w/ sports car?.......azmcoupe?
Ok now I'm really curious as to how your mind works. The guy posted directly above your post and yet you ask the same stupid question. Hmmm weird.
Dinan I wouldn't be so quick to say he'll blow him away with the Supra. Points to be made:
1) this is a very important point. TS1 WILL BE BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE SUPRA. *
2) Sym looks like an experienced driver. 13.1 a is pretty impressive time out of a stock Z28.
3) Possibly with headers alone he can sneak into 12's...... stock Z28's have been known to go into 12's also. With the mods he listed he should be deep into the 12's. Surely the Supra will be there too with a BPU package. Don't forget Camaro is set up more "properly"

* I didn't mean to make this sound like an insult if anything. I'm not the greatest driver in the world myself. Just that
you have never had experience behind the wheel of a Supra. Maybe you have but not enough to feel the car. Again a 13.1 isquite impressive ina stock Z28, that's magazine editors get for C5 coupes.

Who cares? Its a drag race so it means nothing:)

Originally posted by HeavyRightFOOT

Ok now I'm really curious as to how your mind works. The guy posted directly above your post and yet you ask the same stupid question. Hmmm weird.
Dinan I wouldn't be so quick to say he'll blow him away with the Supra. Points to be made:
1) this is a very important point. TS1 WILL BE BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE SUPRA. *
2) Sym looks like an experienced driver. 13.1 a is pretty impressive time out of a stock Z28.
3) Possibly with headers alone he can sneak into 12's...... stock Z28's have been known to go into 12's also. With the mods he listed he should be deep into the 12's. Surely the Supra will be there too with a BPU package. Don't forget Camaro is set up more "properly"

* I didn't mean to make this sound like an insult if anything. I'm not the greatest driver in the world myself. Just that
you have never had experience behind the wheel of a Supra. Maybe you have but not enough to feel the car. Again a 13.1 isquite impressive ina stock Z28, that's magazine editors get for C5 coupes.

I never said he would blow anything away, now did I.

HRF, u idiot........do u think my intelligence (or the intelligence u all think i have) on this message board has anything to do w/ my driving skill?

either way..........just as ruch said......its a drag race.....all i gotta do is find the right RPM to pop the clutch and learn how to shift quickly........drag racing is much more based on "chance" than real driver skill because you gotta hope that you let off the clutch at the right time and give enough gas to get a good jump off the line (but at the same time not too much to lose grip and fail)...

You want a real race? Bring you and your bloody camaro down to my neck of tha woods and we'll take it on some twisty backroads. By the time i get through the first turn your heavy V8 will cause you to understeer into a ditch...knowing how to take max speed through the turns............that's where the real skill lies.

Well drag racing properly takes skill, but its a skill not at all worth learning..... Even if I find myself in a drag race I always ease off the clutch slowly before I floor it. What you need to learn is proper downshifting and cornering skills.

Originally posted by HeavyRightFOOT

Ok now I'm really curious as to how your mind works. The guy posted directly above your post and yet you ask the same stupid question. Hmmm weird.
Dinan I wouldn't be so quick to say he'll blow him away with the Supra. Points to be made:
1) this is a very important point. TS1 WILL BE BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE SUPRA. *
2) Sym looks like an experienced driver. 13.1 a is pretty impressive time out of a stock Z28.
3) Possibly with headers alone he can sneak into 12's...... stock Z28's have been known to go into 12's also. With the mods he listed he should be deep into the 12's. Surely the Supra will be there too with a BPU package. Don't forget Camaro is set up more "properly"

* I didn't mean to make this sound like an insult if anything. I'm not the greatest driver in the world myself. Just that
you have never had experience behind the wheel of a Supra. Maybe you have but not enough to feel the car. Again a 13.1 isquite impressive ina stock Z28, that's magazine editors get for C5 coupes.

I know some peeps who can do it for him. :) My father might even be able to do it. I've never got that low in a stock MKIV. Though I wasn't stock very long.

Originally posted by Ruchmate
Who cares? Its a drag race so it means nothing:)

In terms to judge a better car no... However is alot more skill then some of you think. When your working with power anyway..

Originally posted by TS1

You want a real race? Bring you and your bloody camaro down to my neck of tha woods and we'll take it on some twisty backroads. By the time i get through the first turn your heavy V8 will cause you to understeer into a ditch...knowing how to take max speed through the turns............that's where the real skill lies.

Holy shit that was funny! :D Thanks TS1, you always make me laugh. BTW, I think your period key is broken.

Originally posted by TS1


either way..........just as ruch said......its a drag race.....all i gotta do is find the right RPM to pop the clutch and learn how to shift quickly........drag racing is much more based on "chance" than real driver skill because you gotta hope that you let off the clutch at the right time and give enough gas to get a good jump off the line (but at the same time not too much to lose grip and fail)...



Actually the F-body is hurt in handling cause of its chassis and suspension.

BTW, you think it is so easy to run the ¼ mile? I bet you couldn’t run a 13.0 flat in a 2002 Z06. That’s what I think..


Work with a good amount of torque... Like a GNX. See if you can handle that.

Originally posted by Ruchmate
Well drag racing properly takes skill, but its a skill not at all worth learning.....

To you maybe. Those people who like drag racing might feel differently...

torque = much goodness + lots of wheel spin :)

Originally posted by TS1
You want a real race? Bring you and your bloody camaro down to my neck of tha woods and we'll take it on some twisty backroads. By the time i get through the first turn your heavy V8 will cause you to understeer into a ditch...knowing how to take max speed through the turns............that's where the real skill lies.

Actually, the LS1 is a pretty compact and light engine. High displacement does not make an engine any heavier; it just means that there are bigger holes cut into the block. The physical size of the motor itself is what really matters, and from what I hear LS1s aren't exactly elephants.

Originally posted by Silverfish


Actually, the LS1 is a pretty compact and light engine. High displacement does not make an engine any heavier; it just means that there are bigger holes cut into the block. The physical size of the motor itself is what really matters, and from what I hear LS1s aren't exactly elephants.

Yea I'm willing to bet the MKIV Turbo set up is heavier than the LS1. I'm sure of it as a matta o facto.

Originally posted by TS1


You want a real race? Bring you and your bloody camaro down to my neck of tha woods and we'll take it on some twisty backroads. By the time i get through the first turn your heavy V8 will cause you to understeer into a ditch...knowing how to take max speed through the turns............that's where the real skill lies.

I'll give you that the Supra turns better than a STOCK Z28, but see when you lower it and add adj. shocks it evens things out, it's funny you should mention understeer and a supra... who's front end is notoriously heavy due to the very large I6 stuck up front.. as for my engine being heavy, I'm gonna bet your engine weighs about as much as mine does... I don't think you wanna race me through twisty mountain roads... I'll drift right by you and wave good bye through the first turn.. see there is this thing called torque and my car has alot of of it.. it's kinda nice when your powering through a turn.. and see I don't ahve to wait for my turbo's to spool at 3500rpm. I push the gas it goes, no lag :) so bring the pain! o yeah here's some figures for you... Stock supra .96-.98 g's skidpad, Stock camaro .89, my camaro .93, Stock supra 320 hp, Stock camaro "305" my car 340hp.. shall I continue with how your going to loose...? I don't think I need to bring driver skill into this.. what do you drive now anyways, a lexus? I guess that makes you god of racing as you so proclaim yourself to be. I guess I better watch out for you.... So you don't hit me! come find me when you learn more about "your" car.. and how to drive it!

Hey Superhick, you live in PA? Cause I saw that ugly ass miata at a corvette show in Stroudsburg.

Originally posted by SymTrips


I'll give you that the Supra turns better than a STOCK Z28, but see when you lower it and add adj. shocks it evens things out, it's funny you should mention understeer and a supra... who's front end is notoriously heavy due to the very large I6 stuck up front.. as for my engine being heavy, I'm gonna bet your engine weighs about as much as mine does... I don't think you wanna race me through twisty mountain roads... I'll drift right by you and wave good bye through the first turn.. see there is this thing called torque and my car has alot of of it.. it's kinda nice when your powering through a turn.. and see I don't ahve to wait for my turbo's to spool at 3500rpm. I push the gas it goes, no lag :) so bring the pain! o yeah here's some figures for you... Stock supra .96-.98 g's skidpad, Stock camaro .89, my camaro .93, Stock supra 320 hp, Stock camaro "305" my car 340hp.. shall I continue with how your going to loose...? I don't think I need to bring driver skill into this.. what do you drive now anyways, a lexus? I guess that makes you god of racing as you so proclaim yourself to be. I guess I better watch out for you.... So you don't hit me! come find me when you learn more about "your" car.. and how to drive it!

I’d love to race you stock vs. stock… MKIV vs. Z28

Here we go…

The MKIV healthy out handles the Z28 in ALL categories… Even the SLP package that Ab was about to purchase doesn’t handle as well as the MKIV. That “Notoriously� heavy front you speak of… Well, fact is the weight distribution is 52/48 (f/r) so the car is fairly well balanced (I’m sure more so than the Z/28). In fact when the MKIV was released it was named one of the best handling cars in the world. R&T even said it might BE the best-handling car in the world if it was and I quote “a touch� better in the steering feel department.

Torque? Don’t confuse yourself… Toyota isn’t Honda, there are more than a few models that come with torque. In fact the MKIV’s peak comes at the same 4000rpms as the Z/28. So much for you waiving by at the first turn.

Did I mention that the MKIV has better braking than the F-body? Hell it Z06 braking performance numbers (60-0 in 109ft), which would only mean your breaking before him. So even before that first turn that you THOUGHT you would pull away in… You’re being passed unless you already were behind from the get go.

The person you race would also be in quality and luxury. Your car puts out 340hp? I’ll put down 340rwhp for free.

I’m not trying to start a F-body, Supra war… Though you clearly don’t respect the MKIV as much as you should.

Originally posted by Dan325i
Hey Superhick, you live in PA? Cause I saw that ugly ass miata at a corvette show in Stroudsburg.

Naw, I'm originally from the Darlington, S.C. area although I live in upstate NY now. I got those pictures off of www.beaterz.com.

Originally posted by The "mecca" project


I’d love to race you stock vs. stock… MKIV vs. Z28

Here we go…

The MKIV healthy out handles the Z28 in ALL categories… Even the SLP package that Ab was about to purchase doesn’t handle as well as the MKIV. That “Notoriously� heavy front you speak of… Well, fact is the weight distribution is 52/48 (f/r) so the car is fairly well balanced (I’m sure more so than the Z/28). In fact when the MKIV was released it was named one of the best handling cars in the world. R&T even said it might BE the best-handling car in the world if it was and I quote “a touch� better in the steering feel department.

Torque? Don’t confuse yourself… Toyota isn’t Honda, there are more than a few models that come with torque. In fact the MKIV’s peak comes at the same 4000rpms as the Z/28. So much for you waiving by at the first turn.

Did I mention that the MKIV has better braking than the F-body? Hell it Z06 braking performance numbers (60-0 in 109ft), which would only mean your breaking before him. So even before that first turn that you THOUGHT you would pull away in… You’re being passed unless you already were behind from the get go.

The person you race would also be in quality and luxury. Your car puts out 340hp? I’ll put down 340rwhp for free.

I’m not trying to start a F-body, Supra war… Though you clearly don’t respect the MKIV as much as you should.

the ex-supra owner has spoken...

either way......if u get a suspension kit.......there's no reason for which i shouldn't be able to get a suspension kit....

And trust me........although the supra is a relatively heavy car i've seen skidpad #'s for modified supras well over 1.0G.

There is no way in hell the Z28 can outhandle the supra. MAYBE.....MAYBE....just maybe it would if the supra driver was an average joe while the Z28 was driven by some cornering mad man like colin mcrae or something......

but otherwise...........nope. Not a chance. Not a chance pal.

Originally posted by The "mecca" project


I?d love to race you stock vs. stock? MKIV vs. Z28

Here we go?

The MKIV healthy out handles the Z28 in ALL categories? Even the SLP package that Ab was about to purchase doesn?t handle as well as the MKIV. That ?Notoriously? heavy front you speak of? Well, fact is the weight distribution is 52/48 (f/r) so the car is fairly well balanced (I?m sure more so than the Z/28). In fact when the MKIV was released it was named one of the best handling cars in the world. R&T even said it might BE the best-handling car in the world if it wa

s and I quote ?a touch? better in the steering feel department.

Torque? Don?t confuse yourself? Toyota isn?t Honda, there are more than a few models that come with torque. In fact the MKIV?s peak comes at the same 4000rpms as the Z/28. So much for you waiving by at the first turn.

Did I mention that the MKIV has better braking than the F-body? Hell it Z06 braking performance numbers (60-0 in 109ft), which would only mean your breaking before him. So even before that first turn that you THOUGHT you would pull away in? You?re being passed unless you already were behind from the get go.

The person you race would also be in quality and luxury. Your car puts out 340hp? I?ll put down 340rwhp for free.

I?m not trying to start a F-body, Supra war? Though you clearly don?t respect the MKIV as much as you should.

First off, I never said the Z28 would out handle a supra, if you read my post you'll notice the skidpad ratings for the supra are higher, I was merely stating that it's only a difference of about .08g's stock, which works out to a few mph in a corner.

As for torque, you may get your peak at 4k, but see with my car if you go look at a dyno sheat from about 1500 rpm I have 250+lb/ft at the wheels from that 1500rpm to redline, it's flat! now since the supra is turbo we all know what a turbo torque curve looks like... and for those that don't I'll give a small description. it goes up slightly between 0 and 2500rpm then it starts to pick up a little, hit 3500 and it shoots upto the peak and then levels off till redline.

About the braking I look in both R&T and MT neither have stats on the supra turbo, but they do have the braking for Z28 135ft... so if the supra gets 109 thats only a diff of 26ft not very much..

On a more personal note I've race a supra TT, a 98 supra TT I have 5 people in my car, and they weren't small people vs a guy with a supra that couldn't drive it as well he should have been able too, and with my stock brakes from 130mph the stoping was about the same, granted my brakes and his were both smoking afterwords and the fact we'd just gone flying by a cop at 130+ is besides the point :)

I'm not trying to diss on the car, My poblem is with the guy that thinks he's gonna get a supra and be god in it.. They are nice cars, but I've seen alot of "shitty" cars that will tear a supra a new one. Also that he doesn't drive a sports car, and hasn't had to deal with a fair amount of power on a daily basis annoy's me when he says he's gonna come race me and beat me in his stock supra TT, I went from driving an integra LS to my Z it scared the shit out of me for the first two months I left the traction control on, didnt' dare punch it, not even to race a civic, the one time I did I took out a tree in the center divider.. poor tree :) car was fine.

All I'm realy trying to say is don't get cocky cause your getting a sports car, that car has alot of power, I mean alot, a lexus 300 has some power but there is a big difference when you've got another 100+hp and a car made to put it to the ground rather well, it's real easy to end up sideways and in a tree or ditch, especially in the rain, nothing like sitting still watching your speedo goto 130 and your friend in a beretta is passing you! ( btw that beretta has side exhaust, Lytldiablo knows what I"m talking about :) )

Supra's are great cars, and for the money it takes to make them fast they realy go fast, just don't go mouthing off about how they are the best or you'll end up pissing people off. If you wanna show someone that your car is the shit, give them numbers not "it's hella cool to mod" or "I can out drive you in a car I've never driven"

Ok my ranting is done, hope ya'll have a wonderfull day!

Originally posted by SymTrips


you'll notice the skidpad ratings for the supra are higher, I was merely stating that it's only a difference of about .08g's stock, which works out to a few mph in a corner.

About the braking I look in both R&T and MT neither have stats on the supra turbo, but they do have the braking for Z28 135ft... so if the supra gets 109 thats only a diff of 26ft not very much..


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what are you stupid:D??

26ft is HUGE, especially since the Supra will also have brakes that resist fading more. And .08 is rather big too.........

I also made a mistake... You are right. I was going off Supercars.net's stats and not actually thinking.

The MKIV is no slouch on torque though. It peaks on the first turbo at around 270 lbs @3200rpm. Then there is a drop to 250 lbs @ around 4000rpm which lasts until 4100lbs where it matches its 270 again (The drop in power is very small and is just the second turbo arriving). At 4500rpm the MKIV is at full Torque running about 318-315 on the crank.

I'm blazed and forget what we were talking about so I'll end it htere.

Originally posted by TS1
HRF, u idiot........do u think my intelligence (or the intelligence u all think i have) on this message board has anything to do w/ my driving skill?

either way..........just as ruch said......its a drag race.....all i gotta do is find the right RPM to pop the clutch and learn how to shift quickly........drag racing is much more based on "chance" than real driver skill because you gotta hope that you let off the clutch at the right time and give enough gas to get a good jump off the line (but at the same time not too much to lose grip and fail)...

You want a real race? Bring you and your bloody camaro down to my neck of tha woods and we'll take it on some twisty backroads. By the time i get through the first turn your heavy V8 will cause you to understeer into a ditch...knowing how to take max speed through the turns............that's where the real skill lies.
Yo why do you have to go call me an idiot for? Don't act like you ****in drive a Supra everyday iether. **** that as of now I'm gonna call you Richard. you figure it out *******! The things you say are ****in retarded. You've driven a Supra once where your Cousin had to lower the boost like crazy to let you look at the car. Now your dumb ass thinks you can corner and drift and do whatever the ****. You're an idiot. Just judging by the way you rationalize things, "drag racing is much more based on chance" lol. Ok Dick whatever you wanna say. I hope you don't get a Supra, especially a TT. Only 12,000 of them were sent to the US and we don't need dickheads like you ****ing up good cars. Do you even know what 350lb/ft of torque feels like? I'm sure you know how to drift too, and stop on a dime :rolleyes:.

All you can do is jerkoff to a Supra. You should listen to Sym because he actually knows what he's talking about.

Lol mountain roads. Again talking your mouth off? Despite it's chassie and whatever, the Camaro still manages to go around turns quickly. And they are good track cars. Not one review that I read said the Camaro wasn't a blast to drive on mountain roads. As I matter of fact in recent comparisons it was a factor of why the Camaro Z28 or SS was liked. because of mountain road driving and it's ability to shoot out of corners. Can the Supra do the same? of course it can. IT can probably do it a little better, it is more advanced after all. Seriously we all act like we're race car drivers in here, I'll admit I'v done that myself as well. But too notice the slight difference in performance between the two cars you have to be an amazing, consitent driver to actually handle the car AT IT'S LIMITS. The Difference in performance is slight because of the extreme limits these two cars possess.

Mecca I'll agree with you the Z06 is probably not an easy car to launch or even break 13's with. But of course we know TS1 over here would break 12's with it for the first time behind the wheel.:rolleyes:

I think the main problem here is that we're all arguing against a magazine racer whose dad buys him cars... no wonder he doesn't understand much about cars...

Originally posted by The "mecca" project
Good luck affording it.. I couldn't.

Yeah, we all know where ur disposable income went to....:D ;)

Alrite what the hell has been goin on without me?

My cable breaks down for a few days and all u guys go nutz....

TS1 talks funny in his posts here :D

I'll race u TS1, bring on ur MKIVTT and we'll see.....

Originally posted by Ruchmate


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what are you stupid:D??

26ft is HUGE, especially since the Supra will also have brakes that resist fading more. And .08 is rather big too.........

at 80+ mph 26 is negligable considering your doing 120+ ft/sec, also the camaro's brakes are not very prone to fade, the only time I'f managed to realy fade my brakes is standing the pedal from 130 and that's it, also I have slotted rotors so brake fade is a thing of the past... .08 g's in a corner is a few mph easily made up on the exit, also unless you a godly driver and push a car right to the limit and take every corner on the line, a few mph is a matter of entry into a corner..

I'll admit I'm not exactly a race car driver.. I can push my car, but no where near it's limits.. Unless I know the road like the back of my hand I keep it down to just below where the car starts to slide... there are a few corners I drift, but thats only if no traffic is coming and I'm sure I could pull another 10-15mph out of those corners.

But to TS1 when you get your MKIVTT and you goto skip barber racing school for a week or so dont' talk shit to someone that's been driving THEIR car for a while.

Yea that's the point I was trying to say as well, but I was too pissed off lol.

I don't know how this factors in but I have always said that the skidpad rating is tossability and roadholding at low speeds. This doesn't or might not have much relevance at high speeds. The Camaro and Supra will produce different amounts of g's at different speeds on different turns. You can't just base everything on skidpad it only says part of the story. Like I said before F-bodies are so-so handlers at lower speeds, but as the speed grows they become more nimble and so forth. Again that was another dislike/like that editors had when they drove the car. I guess because it's kinda bulky with some blind spots. Sym has a Z28 he could explain the difference at low and and high speeds......:)

I'm sorry. but 26ft is a massive margain from 60-0.

your right and your not right... the car was only on the stock suspension for about two weeks.. but at very very high speed the ass end tends to get a little wobbly, not uncontolable but a little wobbly... but between about 50-120 it's solid as a rock, low speeds it's a bit loose in the rear.

In cornering the harder you push it the better it turns, if you let off the gas in a corner, your just screwed. all the weight transfers to the front outside wheel and understeer becomes your best friend, give it a little gas it steps out just a little at the edge and bam your around the corner accelerating all the way...

there are some realy fun onramps around here that do like 270's to get on the freeway, and I get on doing about 55 and slowly accel it starts to slip about 70 then at 75 it just sits and goes... if I let off bye bye front end.. it just slides out more cause of the weight transfer.

But I got adj. shocks and eibach springs, it's solid above 50 all the way to 167 (damned speed limiter) and witht he rear shocks set at 2/8 the back end squats on corners and realy brings the car around, it handles like crazy...

There is a turn into my neighbor hood that is a 90 deg left up a slight incline say about 6 deg up hill then levels off I usually take that at around 45 and the ass barely slides out, but it's well in control and very very solid...

The main reason F-body's aren't great at the slolom is they are heavy and thats a lot of weight to transfer back and forth very rapidly, and the stock Z springs tend to be a little soft in the rear to handle the torque so you don't end up with wheel hop or axle wrap... So if anyone ever gets a chance go borrow an f-body from a dealer ship and push one.. then go drive a stang and tell me you like the mustang better, I've driven both and I can't stand the interior of the stang, the shifter is so far away, and the seats aren't very comfortable, a friend of mine has leather seats in his Z and those things are so comfortable I could fall asleep in them. I've got clothe which sucks balls, but that'll soon change when I get some nice racing seats :)

About the supra though, I"ve never ridden/driven one so I can't realy compare the handling, only by the numbers I've seen.. I'll have to go ride in my friend ben's, gotta love 550rwhp :)!!

****!! i just had a good post and it disappeared!!!

****!! How the hell did that happen?

oh well.....i'm not typing it again.

Originally posted by TS1
****!! i just had a good post and it disappeared!!!

****!! How the hell did that happen?

oh well.....i'm not typing it again.

Right....nice comeback :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


i'm serious. I had a hella good post and i just lost it.


care for any more rolleyes?

Originally posted by TS1


I dunno about that........

I think i could beat you....

:D

As for the nehehe i'm spoiled topic thing.......maybe u interpreted it that way.......but i was just trying to decide what you all would think if i actually owned such a great car (well....i think its a great car.....).

dont bullshit yourself son, youre on a message board, not a phone where you can "say you said something else"


"MY POINT:

I'll have one. And you won't. So **** YOU ALL!!


MUAAHAHHAHA.

ok...i'm done."

how about this, you get your supra bring it over to my side of town and ill show you everything you dont know about your car, show you how to drive your car, and take you to my friends who have your car that are fast like 660rwhp fast, highway racing bikes fast.

oh and by the way dumb****, colin mcrae doesnt exactly drive the same style that you would in an fbody, its not a light turbo 4wd rally car.

get your supra and race me in my big heavy ass (3760lb) fbody with its hella heavy ~7.8 liter v8 (and yes we can go to the twisties if you please)

Oh please we all know that lil kid ain't gettin nothing but stinky shiet for the next 10,000 years...........

It's all about me gettin the MKIVTT and granted ur silly ass that I'll be the one to beat down all ur bunched up sack of horse heads.......... :D































































I am sooooooooooooooo juss kiddin about what I just said......... :confused:























Good luck TS1................. And make sure that I'm the first one u give a ride to :D

Shut it you little turds.

haha.......yeah.......i'm a turd.

what can i say?...i'm still 16...

maybe when i get older i won't act like such a weirdo.

I won't hold my breath.

Originally posted by TS1
haha.......yeah.......i'm a turd.

what can i say?...i'm still 16...

maybe when i get older i won't act like such a weirdo.

No you'll just be an older idiot :D

:::golf clap::: much amusement

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