I have a 96 Metro. Uses a quart every 2-3 hundred miles. Ran like crap no power oil consumption bad mileage. Found it had a stuck and burnt exhaust valve. I repaired this and mileage has gone up some and it runs great now. Only problem is it is still drinking oil. It does not leak and doesn't blow blue smoke. Every once in awhile I can smell it burning but have no evidence of it other than being low. Everything that I had that used this much oil would fill and intersection with a blue cloud like I'k\m fogging for mosquitos but not in this case. Any ideas what I need to do or where the oil is going? Thanks a lot, Bill

lol. where do you live? they city might pay you good money for the mosquito fogging service you provide.

Are you sure it isn't leaking? because the oil just doesn't dissapear...

No evidence of a leak on the engine. I put the car in the garage and ran it for an hour and no spots on the floor. So I guess it is burning it. I've got good compression in all 3 cylinders now that I fixed the valve. I'm guess I'm confused at how it can burn so much without telltale signs of what the problem is. Bill

No evidence of a leak on the engine. I put the car in the garage and ran it for an hour and no spots on the floor. So I guess it is burning it. I've got good compression in all 3 cylinders now that I fixed the valve. I'm guess I'm confused at how it can burn so much without telltale signs of what the problem is. Bill



And you're sure it isn't smoking at all?

Maybe you have an exhaust leak and you can't see the smoke?

or the oil is exiting the engine and carbonizing before it has a chance to leave a spot?

HJ

It could be some. I'm in Iowa and it is cold so you can see the exhaust but it isn't anything like I've seen on vehicles that burn oil.

hmm feel around on the back of the engine, and if possible, wash the engine compartment and the underside of the car, run it for an hour or so and then check the firewall side of the engine compartment from below. you may be suprised.

hj

Would a bad PCV valve cause it to suck up and push out excess oil?

It's possible... check it out.

Went and got a new PCV valve after I washed the engine compartment. I wasn't able to do too good a job but I'll check tomorrow after sunup to see if there is fresh oil on the firewall side. It has oil spots on the passenger side underneath but I contributed that to a blown oil pressure sending unit that I fixed. I burned a half quart of oil in 65 miles to get the PCV valve. I guess why I'm so confused is that With a leak or burn this bad I thougth it would reveal itself better. Anyway if it is a leak I'm guessing it would be the main seal. How hard are these to change? Need special tools, and can I get it done in my garage without pulling the engine? Thanks for all the help, Bill

Went and got a new PCV valve after I washed the engine compartment. I wasn't able to do too good a job but I'll check tomorrow after sunup to see if there is fresh oil on the firewall side.
Good idea. feel around the top of the engine bay and check out the bottom with a flashlight..


Anyway if it is a leak I'm guessing it would be the main seal. How hard are these to change? Need special tools, and can I get it done in my garage without pulling the engine? Thanks for all the help, Bill
You'll need a full set of mechanix tools and you'll probably want to pull the engine to do so, as the main seal is on the transmission side :cool:

Hjholter3 , I can't believe you are such a dickhead to "lol" at his problem and keep suggesting he has a visible oil leak when he states there are none.
Are you that inexperienced to think no engine burns oil that can't be so simply traced to internal problems when there are no external signs?
It's people like you that perpetuate gullable folks spending money on misdiagnosed repairs and bullshit. Who are you working for anyway?
How many times has he made it clear there is no drip?
In lala land we burn oil and utter "duh?" if there are no visible signs i guess.
What about the exhaust valves and rings?
How did you earn "senior member status" with such lame responses?
how old are you anyway?
just out of high school?
wipe that smirk off your face please as you don't know shit about these 1.0 engines..
kick my ass off this forum, what have i got to lose with this kind of lame senior help anyway huh?
might as well get screwed by anyone else with an "opinion".
my email is xcygnus58@yahoo.com if you or any of your kiss ass cronies would like to respond......
Good idea. "feel around the top of the engine bay and check out the bottom with a flashlight" as there are never oil burning issues with this engine.....just simple seal and gasket issues

pathetic

I tried to send you a private email but guess what?
You don't accept them - poser!

carbonizing? WTF? a GEO? get a life.

here is your Myspace crap -

"What you know about that?
I know all about that"

really?

that DOES say it all about you.
pathetic x2

are you surrounded by people who kiss your ass?

apparantly

and BTW I can't spell

i hope that with 3677 posts, i have missed some value in your knowledge.
it certainly can't be with oil-burning Metros.....

I think your "2nd Biggest E-Penis" has interfered with your cranium.

weasel.

A bad oil pressure sender can cause a huge amount of oil loss, and almost no dripping under the car.
If the sender leaks from where the ceramic part is crimped by the metal it can spray a very fine mist of oil as you drive down the road. I've seen Chevy small blocks spray a quart in five minutes, leaving no dripping oil.
If you just changed the sender you may have just fixed the problem.

Oil from a pressure sender is just filtered oil under high pressure, not dark oily drips like you see from a front or rear seal or a gasket.
Anyway it's something to consider.

:necro: